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Tencent forces users to choose between the two: Those who have 360 installed can’t use QQ
November 3rd night news, regarding the dispute between 360 and QQ, Tencent issued a public announcement today, stating that until the dispute between the two sides is resilved, Tencent will not allow its QQ [instant messaging program] to run on any computer with 360 installed on it. Industry insiders believe that Tencent is forcing users to choose between the two with this move.
Beginning from the end of September, a dispute broke out between China’s two largest client software companies Tencent and 360 that continues to this day, with the trigger having been 360′s privacy protection software claiming that QQ is suspected of scanning the private documents of netizen’s computers, which Tencent flatly denied; The most recent clash between the two sides has been 360 releasing a way to get rid of QQ advertisements, turn off QQ Xiu, and QQ members’ “Koukou Bodyguard”, with Tencent then suing 360 on grounds of unfair competition.
Comments from NetEase:
After using TX [Tencent] for so many years, this time, you [腾讯, teng xun, Tencent] have really disappointed brother [referring to self]. Laughingly awaiting the Heavenly Kingdom‘s final decision/judgment.
Tencent’s hooligan face [behavior] is truly disgusting.
You have a fight with 360, but what right do you have to force it upon the users? What right do you have to make decisions for users?
Ever since I installed 360, my computer has been perfectly fine…I support 360. Tencent, you want try forcing people into a corner, you can go to hell.
It has finally escalated. As someone who uses both company’s software, the pressure is really huge…
You dare to threaten brother [referring to self], brother will just go to MSN.
Tencent’s brother is Li Gang.
Tencent is truly TMD low.
TX is really disappointing~~ So many people supporting you, and yet this is how you repay them?
I have already go 315 [China's Consumer Protection Bureau] to lodge a complaint against Tencent, for stopping service without user’s permission! Members, red, yellow, blue, diamond, etc. [membership levels] have all paid money! On one side, Tencent makes itself sound like it is the embodiment of justice, but on the other side it does illegal things… In this river crab society, [Tencent CEO] Ma Huateng’s father is Li Gang! Go to hell!!
TX, how do you know I am using 360??????? You just proved that you are scanning my computer. At first, I didn’t believe what 360 said about you invading users’ privacy. Now I believe them. Talk about lifting up a rock to smash your own foot! Idiots!
360 versus Tencent, who will you guys end up choosing?
Below is the full text to Tencent’s “letter to the vast number of QQ users”:
Dear QQ User:
When you see this letter, we have just made an exceptionally difficult decision. Until 360 stops its infringements and malicious defamation against QQ, we have decided to stop the operation of QQ software on computers installed with 360 software. We know deeply this will cause an definite inconvenience for you, and we sincerely apologize to you. At the same time, we have written below the reasons for this decision, and hope we can have your understanding and support.
1. To protect your QQ account’s security
Recently, 360 has forcefully promoted and even coerced users to install the illegal hack “Koukou Bodyguard”. This software hijacked QQ’s security module, causing QQ to lose related functions. In a 360 software operating environment, We are unable to guarantee your QQ account’s security.
2. Saying “no” to immoral behavior
360 time and time again has manufactured “QQ infringes upon users’ privacy” hearsay/rumors, engaging in malicious slander of QQ’s security features. The truth is that QQ’s security module absolutely does not engage in scanning or monitoring users’ private data, much less uploading/transmitting users’ data. At present, we have already provided our QQ security module’s code to a third party for review, to prove our innocence.
Worse, as an internet security company, 360 actually has released hacking software, openly standing on the opposite side of “security”, engaging in the hijacking and control of other companies’ software. This is all immoral behavior.
3. Resisting illegal behavior
Any business behavior, no matter for what purpose, must all be carried out within the framework of the country’s legal regulations. However, 360 actually uses something illegal like a “hack” to undermine Tencent’s normal service.
360 has already hijacked and undermined QQ on the desktops of users’ computers. We could have chosen to use technological methods to fight them, but after repeated consideration, we ultimately decided that we cannot let your computer desktop become a “battleground”, and have instead given you the right to choose your software.
Over the past 12 years, QQ has been fortunate to have grown with you; As for the future, we look forward to continuing to be part of your life!
2010 November 3
A poll on Tianya:
Question: You can’t use QQ because your computer has 360 installed, you will:
1. Uninstall QQ.
2. Uninstall 360.
3. Observe, actually, brother [referring to self] doesn’t use either of them.
A poll on Mop:
Question: QQ attacks, says computers installed with 360 cannot run QQ software! Who do you support?
1. Support QQ, after so many years, there is a bond.
2. Support 360, TX’s copying is too shameless.
3. Observe, none of my fucking business, old me uses MSN.
A poll from NetEase:
Question: Tencent forces users to choose between the two, who will you uninstall?
Tencent has announced its conditions for reconciliation/settlement: 360 must uninstall/remove Privacy Protector
Below is the full text of Tencent’s statement:
We call for 460 to make a clean break with its past, and commit to giving users an environment to use QQ and other legal software safely/securely and without interference.
To obtain comprehensive security for QQ users, Tencent requires 360 to do the following three things before Tencent will stop its self-protective measures:
1. 360 must uninstall on all of its software clients Koukou Bodyguard and the malicious Tencent-slandering Privacy Protector;
2. 360 must immediately stop intercepting/interfering with Tencent and other legal software programs/processes, and publicly commit to no longer interfering with Tencent programs, publicly commit to no longer release any software that attacks Tencent products, and publicly commit to no longer misappropriate any QQ user’s information;
3. 360 publicly apologizes to Tencent, and compensates for its losses.
Comments from Mop:
Will 360 be able to endure this?
Can’t have your cake and eat it too. The government isn’t doing anything [about this] either.
If 360 releases a communication tool like QQ…I’m willing to throw away QQ
and side with 360.
Absurd, a software company is now able to hoodwink the public. I won’t talk about the ordinary free user, but I’m thinking: How is Tencent treating the rights and interests of those users who have paid?
Switch to MSN, ding [support] 360 to the end…
Two rabid dogs biting each other are finally opening their mouths towards their master…
Only asking for justice! Foreigner who hits and kills an Yiwu girl [only gets] 15 days of administrative detention!
October 17th 9pm, on a section of Chouzhou Road, a 23-year old Yiwu girl crossing the crosswalk was hit by a small car that was excessively speeding and thrown over 20 meters. The driver of that small car fled the scene without stopping, but fortunately there were kind-hearted people who noted the car’s license plate number and called the police. The driver involved is a laowai, driving without a license and while intoxicated. He abandoned the car at Qingkou. The small car involved was a local Yiwu car. After paramedics sent the girl that was hit to Chouzhou hospital, her condition was declared critical with severe brain injury, a ruptured liver, losing 4500cc of blood during surgery that night, dilated pupils, crushed limbs, and five hours of surgery. At this point, she is still not out of danger.
Tell me, is this driver still human? He too has family, so why was he so inhuman? Also, why did this Yiwu car owner lend this car knowing that the laowai doesn’t have a driver’s license? The worst thing is that this driver, after abandoning the car, returned to his hotel as if nothing happened, and the international hotel he was staying at was not 50 meters away from the scene of the accident.
This girl’s family is a poor family that depends on the state, her father having passed away three years ago due to liver cirrhosis when she was in her third year of high school about to take the gaokao [China's college entrance examination]. Her mother has barely recovered and now she has to suffer this news, how is she supposed to endure it? An this young pretty girl, just out of college, just entering the workforce, her beautiful life just beginning, and she is hit by a driver with a 2.13mg/ml blood alcohol content and no valid driver’s license. Speeding, fleeing from the scene. Hitting someone at the crosswalk, and just a trivial 15 days administrative detention? It has been 5 days now, the victim is still lying in the Chouzhou Hospital Intensive Care Unit and has not yet regained consciousness. Whether she will live or die is still unknown. Meanwhile, this 浙GR616F [license plate number] car owner has yet to visit the hospital nor has he expressed an apology to the victim. Where is the justice!!! On the 24th, the hospital said they couldn’t do anything further and the poor child passed away…
Why did this inhuman laowai for no reason at all strip someone of their right to life? Where is the justice? Where is the fairness? The family members don’t want anything but for the perpetrator to be punished severely! They only ask that the traffic police department fairly handle [this matter]! Because the victim’s family does not have economic means, and also does not have any influential relatives like Li Gang. I am thankful that there are so many kind-hearted people in support of this. Everyone spread this around, so that more people can know of this incident!
I only hope that heaven has people, that there are not drunks there, no speeding cars, and only peace!
LZ is very silly. If you had hit a person, you too would be arrested and administratively detained first, and then what should be done will be done. Laowai cannot escape Chinese legal punishment. Please do not unreasonably incite. Thanks.
Our country’s criminal law does not put foreigners outside of our country’s criminal law. As long as the foreigner does something that matches a crime in our country’s criminal law, then the foreigner cannot escape the criminal law’s punishments.
You don’t understand the Heavenly Kingdom‘s special characteristics?
These people who always post news similar to this are the most annoying.
Even if you post it, what can it change?
Will the Heavenly Kingdom’s government actually do anything?
Foreigners who commit a crime within our country’s borders ought to be subject to our country’s law and punishments, unless he enjoys diplomatic immunity; but looking at his situation, it doesn’t look like he is someone who enjoys this kind of special right. It will be difficult to escape the crime of fleeing the scene. God will not forgive him, foreigners fear this line the most!
This lousy country, if it doesn’t even value its own ordinary people, how can it ask foreigners to respect it?
That foreign devil, his dad is Bush.
People are supposed to be equal before the law, but in China, you have to see who it is first.
Strongly condemn. Enlist the power of the internet, request the go-vern-ment to severely punish the perpetrator.
Brother [referring to self] has recently become numb to these things, my heart will no longer become as angry and indignant as it once did! This is simply the policy of our great, harmonious Heavenly Kingdom! Poor people are always one level lower! Our citizens are always one level lower than foreigners!
Shrew openly beats honest man on the street for minutes, just because she was knocked over
At the Sinopec gas station on Yuefeng road in Jin’An district of Fuzhou, a man on an electric scooter accidentally hit a middle aged woman carrying a box of takeaway, the woman was knocked to the ground, the takeaway spilling everywhere. Angered at this, the woman in question threw insults and blows his way. The man accepted both without a fighting back with words or blows.
The man, silent throughout, made passers by think that they were a quarreling couple, and that he, the husband had recognised that he was in the wrong, and was accepting his punishment. After realising the truth, they started to intervene, saying “He’s already acknowledged that he was at fault”, “you aren’t injured either, you can’t keep hitting him”…
But the woman would not listen to reason and, getting angrier, raised her umbrella and brought it down upon the honest man’s head, then picked up the scattered plastic boxes, raised them to the his face, and screeched, “Eat it! Eat it! EAT IT!!!!” but the poor man kept his mouth shut under this barrage, and never once returned fire.
Then a surprising thing happened: from the crowd, angered by what was happening, a single leg flew out, kicking the woman’s left thigh. At the same time, another leg shot out from behind her, landing on her calf. The crowd helped the honest man pick up his scooter, and made a “human wall” between the woman and man. The honest man left the scene on his vehicle as fast as he could, leaving behind the embarrassed woman, and the rowdy street then returned to normalcy.
Comments from Mop:
Did this really happen? Chinese society [Original Chinese is 私会, a pun meaning "selfish society"] still has people who will intervene when they see injustices??
…What an honest guy…
That kick was well deserved.
She wasn’t afraid of getting hit back…?
I feel like hitting her too~
Smacking people is good for health.
There’s something wrong with that woman.
Good men don’t quarrel with women.
Eat it. chinaSMACK personals.
True record of a pet concentration camp #40
The dogs who lost their eyesight can only tell what’s happening by listening, so they are very sensitive to the sounds…interestingly, they can even judge your location by listening to you…they want to ask God, can they exchange their precise hearings for a pair of eyes?
October 22nd is a special day, because we have said goodbye to this sad place~
Qing Mei’s [name of this place] filthy environment. In this kind of filthy environment, when the dogs do not have water to drink, the thirsty dogs will drink such dirty, smelly water.
The dogs in the shelter/dog pound are in this kind of environment.
They are full of fear, having lost the love and care they once had~
Due to the humidity, the dogs all more or less have skin diseases~
For a bite of a steamed bun, they even unintentionally bit off the eye of one of their own [while fighting for the food].
Hiding in a corner, gnawing at a bone brought by the volunteers.
We’re going to take these dogs away, taking them all to an animal shelter in Zhouzi county, so they can be far away from this kind of bad environment~
These two dogs hid in the buildings in the very back~
Volunteers communicated with the dog by the wall in the back for a long time before being able to carry it out~
Underneath the bed board was the second to last dog to be brought out with a net/bag~ Everyone can imagine how the dog reacted when it was netted/bagged~
The one of the far left was the first to be carried out. I believe that other than being able to speak, dogs understand everything. as long as you communicate with it~ as long as you give them time, because this one on the far right was convinced by volunteers to be carried out in their arms~
This is what we least want to see, dogs that have already left us [passed away]~
We believe that they are living happily in heaven, where they won’t starve or suffer the cold, much less inhuman treatment~
In this environment, the dogs will very quickly become infected with parvovirus and canine distemper. Everyday, there will be a few dogs that pass away~
These dogs’ carcasses were disposed of outside the perimeter walls. What everyone needs to know is that there are actually people who will collect these dead dogs and sell them to hot pot restaurants and dog meat sellers/restaurants for 1 RMB each. Everyone, please don’t eat dog meat~ because there simply is no health/safety inspection department for dog meat, and it simply isn’t within the scope of being food!
When the weather is really hot, the dog’s bodies will be covered with maggots by the second day~
When it rains, the dogs will hide in the tent set up by volunteers~
These less than two month old puppies can also be captured and brought here~
Every time when we are here, most of the dogs will surround us, because they know we love and care about them, their trust in humans still remaining…
Poor thing, a look of confusion…
Dogs filled with fear, their heart-wrenching expressions~
We carried the dogs onto the van~
Before entering the van, volunteers will first give them shots for their skin disease~
This yellowish white alien-looking darling made us cry~ We spent half the day coaxing it, wanting to carry it out, but while trying to persuade it to come out, we saw that its leg, the one that everyone can see here, its right leg, part of the bone is exposed and sticking out.
We can’t imagine what it must have suffered and we shed tears as we communicated with it but it was no use. In the end, we had to use the net/bag to capture it and bring it out. At this time, it had already begun wagging its tail as it looked at us. It knew we were saving it~
The sun came out, the dogs were all in the van, ready to head to their new home~ No matter what breed they are, they are cute all the same~
I hope more and more people can come adopt them, so they can forever enjoy the sunshine [be happy]~
Let them forever leave this heart-breaking place~
Friends who want a dog can come to Zhouzi [county]. Don’t buy black-market dogs, because there are even more homeless dogs here. Please give them a warm home. Dogs that have been homeless are very well-behaved/understanding/good, they are filled with gratefulness~
There’s a new problem now, the shelter/dog pound has moved, and we don’t know what kind of treatment will meet the dogs that are captured in the future, whether or not they will be euthanized~
Everyone please take good care of your own dogs, promptly pick up after your dogs in public, putting them on a leash when going out, please raise your dogs in a socially responsible manner, registering your dog [license]~ Only this way will there be more and more dog-lovers~
Comments from QQ:
I hope there can be even more people who will protect stray dogs, and respect life.
So touching! I truly feel there are too many dogs that need our help!
What can be done for these poor [dogs] to live a bit better?
These [dogs] are all lives…how loyal and protective of their master’s dogs everyone knows…everyone is equal, so why don’t we go protect them. We should learn from foreigners, who certainly do a very good job on this point of caring and protecting small animals…
Shocking, I hope this can touch the softest part of everyone’s heart. All animals are equal, and every life has the right to life. Man’s greed, selfishness, and apathy has already and is currently sending one by one the lives of weaker animals to heaven. Harmonious society does not mean harmony only between man and man, this is too narrow. I say it should also be in harmony with other animals, because they are also hosts of this planet. Take action then, cruel humanity, sad humans.
Dogs are one of the few true friends of mankind. They give us companionship, protect our safety and property. If we have the least bit appreciation [for them], then we shouldn’t let our friends live so miserably.
I just hope that those who want to raise pets can be more careful/prudent. If you can’t guarantee that you will always take care of it, then don’t ruin a dog’s life over your own impulse. If you cannot guarantee its well-being, cannot guarantee that its offspring’s well-being, then please don’t let it uncontrollably breed! Dogs are lives too, they have feelings, being so loyal, I really don’t understand how humans can bear to be so cruel! No matter what, do what you can, every bit of help is something!
Just do what you can do. There is a story about a little kid on the beach after the tide had ebbed out picking up each fish one by one to throw them back into the sea. Someone told the child: you can’t save all of them. But the kid replied: Each one I save is one less fish that dies! What an adorable kid. Let us do what little we can, let our sense of responsibility/conscientiousness grow, to be responsible for the pets we raise, responsible to the end…
Dogs are always loyal to their masters, because they understand gratefulness. In contrast, those people who heartlessly and cruelly abandon these angels have shown us their lack of morality and responsibility. However, many times we are unable to stop this irresponsible, even cruel conduct. So volunteers, people full of love, in the midst of dedicating themselves to rescuing and helping dogs time and time again, they are the most adorable [admirable] people, the most respectable people. What dogs want [from humans] is not much, all they ask for is a little place to call home. I hope everyone who raises dogs can live up to the responsibility they owe their dogs. treasuring them. I also hope that more and more people can join in helping rescue stray animals.
I hope more and more people will pay attention to these poor small animals. I hope the “animal protection law” can be passed sooner. I hope everyone can waken even more of humanity’s conscience…
At this point, all the dogs from Qing Mei have finally all left that living hell!
Thank you to everyone who has gone to adopt a dog!
At this very moment, I am very touched. I believe those people who have previously participated in the rescue will never forget Qing Mei #40! They won’t forget the hellish life that the poor dogs lived through, won’t forget the road we have walked together with people we know and people we don’t know, won’t forget the place where we once shed innumerable tears!
The road of rescuing [animals] is so difficult, but we will not halt our steps. Here, I want to encourage the dogs as well as ourselves!
I wish the dog protection law will quickly be passed.
I wish there will no longer be any place that sells dog meat.
I wish there will no longer be any killing, disease, and death.
I wish I will no longer need to spend everyday in fear.
I wish I can open my eyes and see my beloved master petting my head.
I wish everyday I can get enough to eat, and no longer have to face the elements.
I wish someday that all of these wishes can become true.
Adopt a pet. chinaSMACK personals.
Note from Fauna: The following post and collection of photographs spread on the Chinese internet in 2008.
Reflections in the midst of extreme poverty and filth — a record of a trip in India
India is the dirtiest country I have ever been to. I have heard people say that Pakistan, which is to the west and Bangladesh, to the east, are worse, but that is probably beyond the limits of my imagination.
In two months in India, I went from south to north, visiting some tourist towns that I had read about. I also went by train and bus to countless towns and open fields that weren’t so famous, and everywhere there were people had something in common — dirty, messy and stank. Interestingly, I also saw countless foreigners having a great time.
Tourists have been coming for years to the small town of Bodhgaya , the place where 2500 years ago Buddha achieved enlightenment, bringing their foreign money to the pockets of a few hotels and tourism operators, but still they live in abject poverty. The streets are lined with rubbish, wild animals squabble to find their breakfast in it. Look carefully and find wild pigs, dogs, mountain goats, and sometimes even cows, which are considered sacred, make an appearance. No wonder the locals don’t each much meat, these animals depend on trash to survive.
Cow dung is the most environmentally friendly fuel source
India is very dry, and vegetation scarce. Sometimes you’ll sweep your eyes over the horizon and only see a barren expanse. Rural villagers use firewood, but like using cow dung more. In cities and towns, sacred cows fill the streets, defecating wherever they please. Cow dung is the most eco-friendly kindling of all, and this means less trees need to be cut down. Moreover if the manure that is produced is not removed daily, a small town would probably quickly drown in it.
You often see see women collecting fresh manure, packing it together with hay using both hands, then carefully sticking it against a wall to dry. The manure largely contains grass that the sacred cows are unable to digest. For Indians, this kind of smell is natural, and tourists who have stayed awhile get used to it. In my two months in India, I learned to accept the piles of cow dung that fill the streets, and their all pervading odor. Compared with the smell of the dung of carnivores, the smell isn’t as strong. Indians have an undying reverence for their sacred cows, which makes me automatically think of people in the modern age and their frivolous materialism.
Puri is a tourist hot spot on the east coast, where heaven and hell come together. One side of town is the hotel area, with its picturesque beaches, the other side is a poor fishing village. The inhabitants’ straw huts are lonely islands in a sea of trash, and I got the feeling that it’s never taken away. The most shocking thing: every villager would defecate on the beach. It wasn’t only villagers who would take a crap on the beach, out in the suburbs you’d get used to seeing people doing it on the side of the road, and the Indian men would do it out in the open, never sneaking off to a secluded spot in the undergrowth. Everywhere from small towns to large cities would have men showing the special characteristics of their culture; even in the major city of Kolkata [Culcutta], on the most upmarket of streets, were white collar workers carrying briefcases walking past crowds of people urinating against walls.
One can’t criticise people for reliving themselves on the beach or in a field, after all this is what our ancestors had to do, all the Indians are doing is preserving a natural way of life that has continued for tens of thousands of years. This is one of the most natural parts of the way people there live, and it’s only we foreigners who make a fuss about it. It’s just that urinating on the street in a big city after all isn’t very decent, but I am sure that with the increasing pace of modernization, India’s cities will very quickly take on a new look. China’s toilet usage/habits have come a long way in the past ten years, so is there any reason that India, another ancient Eastern civilisation, can’t do the same?
I am filthy, but I am brilliant. In the ancient city of Varanasi [Benares], on the banks of the Ganges, all the sewage created by people relieving themselves on the ground in corners, and the rubbish, everything flows into that sacred river, the same water where pilgrims come from all over, brushing their teeth, washing their faces, bodies, and swimming. However, the dirty Ganges and Varanasi are India’s most beautiful place, lots of foreigners love it, staying for months at a time. I lived there for a while, living like a local, swimming in the river like one of them. The ancient town’s intense artistic spirit and religious fervour made me forget material poverty. This important part of the Indian psyche is passed down even today: the spirit is greater than physical riches.
India is indeed “dirty”, “messy” and “smelly” but I have gotten more out of it than any other place I have been. If this wasn’t the case in my two months I wouldn’t have met so many expats who return often, or never leave. As the Taiwanese dancer Lin Huaimin said, whenever he is stuck for artistic inspiration, he goes back to India.
Maybe only in the most disgusting of material surroundings, and the basest living conditions can we find the most profound spiritual enlightenment.
[Warning: This post contains graphic images.]
[Note from Fauna: Not every copy of the post includes the same captions or all of the same pictures. We have translated from the Liu Liu version of the post, which appeared later than the Tianya and Mop copies. ]
Puri, where heaven and hell come together.
The banks of the Ganges River, and women laying out cow dung to dry.
The famous ancient city of Varanasi. The Ganges is for both morning baths and cremations.
At the river side lighting the fire for cremation.
Floating corpses, a common sight on the Ganges!
Here come the remains of a sacred cow!
The famous morning bathing by the Ganges, washing as if the rotting corpse floating by was nothing!
Bathing in the corpse-filled Ganges!
A corpse in the midst of the morning bathing at the Ganges, what do you think?
Corpses…as if they were nothing…sigh!
A rotting body on the banks of the Ganges River.
A body floating by a wharf. Gasp!
A floating rotten corpse.
The floating corpse of a sacred cow!
The body of a cow or a sheep?
Ganges River scenery.
Everywhere the floating corpses of sacred cows!
Natural clothes washing area + sun drying clothes area + cow and sheep bathing pool + excrement flowing and mixing together.
Ganges River morning bathing, how can this water be used for brushing teeth?
Bodies abandoned at the Ganges River.
A dead elderly man by the Ganges River.
A body being dragged by a boat.
Note the lower right corner. What is it? Revealed in the next photo.
Here comes the close-up!!!! Note the flies!!!!
Washing after discarding a corpse.
An old man also comes to bathe.
Girls also come to bathe.
Those on the shore bathe, while in the water floats a stinking bloated corpse.
A skeleton on the shore of the Ganges River.
A corpse floating in the Ganges River.
Let’s put the corpses-in-the-Ganges-River aside for a moment, and talk about Indians using the toilet. Have a look at the three pictures below…
These three toilet photographs represent three levels of toilets in India. Note what is common to all of them, which is that none of them have any toilet paper, but all of them have a bucket of water at arms length… yes, you’ve guessed correctly, Indians don’t use toilet paper when using the toilet, they use their hands. After defecating, you use your left hand finger to wipe the feces around your anus, and then use the water in the bucket to wash your hand. The custom is to use your left hand to wipe your butt, so when you go into a store to select food, you mustn’t use your left hand.
JY people believe, this is actually is a good habit. The first benefit is that cases of hemorrhoids are significantly lower; the second is that it can greatly save paper, good for protecting the earth’s resources and the development of green initiatives. So just by doing this, it saves a great amount of wood.
I’m not sure if I should bring out this photo…a sick elderly person, lonely standing by the Ganges River. I don’t know if he is appreciating the true meaning of life or bemoaning the helplessness of human existence…that helpless expression…that remarkable face carved by the years…is unforgettable…
Don’t look if you won’t like it…you are responsible for yourself…
Sunset, rotting corpse, rowing and enjoying the beautiful scenery.
Sunset, rotting corpse, a butt facing the sky.
A rotting corpse in the Ganges at dusk.
A rotting corpse that looks like a frog.
A person more frightening than the rotting corpses and old leper! Seems to be someone who carries dead bodies professionally.
The Ganges River filled with rotting floating corpses, and people rowing boats as if nothing were the matter.
Not only do [they] wash and bathe in the Ganges River where rotting corpses float about, [they] also drink from it. My god, I can’t take it anymore!
Rotting corpse on the shore.
Wild dogs freely tearing their food off a rotting corpse.
Wild dogs tearing their food off the rotting corpse of a sacred cow.
A crow standing on a floating rotting corpse.
Corpses on the Ganges River, giving off an offensive rotting stench.
Dog. Crows. Fighting for a child’s head as food. Dog victorious.
Dog gnawing on human head.
Steps on the river shore with floating corpses. Can you tell how many rotting corpses are in the water?
An old fish catcher on the shore of the Ganges River.
The tour guide said that this kind of fish in the Ganges is called “Gulang” fish, a very nice sounding name…and it is said the flavor is very good, but upon thinking of the corpses soaking in the water, the soap from the bathing, the garbage by the river…I don’t have the courage to try it, not sure if this kind of fish will have a human flesh flavor…
This needs no introduction as many compatriots are able to eat it domestically [in China]…but a reminder, never eat an authentic one…because the chef uses his left hand to wipe his shit when using the toilet/restroom.
Here, let’s let the JY people see India’s free medical care.
A public hospital’s surgery room.
Ganges River in the early morning, bustling because of the crowds…some to wipe themselves down, some to get water, some to bathe.
Suddenly encountering some familiar faces, [I] was surprised…deeply admiring the guy who entered the water to his waist…BH [biao han, daring] to the extreme…but hope he is not our compatriot.
Flagrantly floating downstream not 500 meters at another set of steps [into the river] was a corpse. Even foreigners had taken out their cameras to snap photos. I wonder how that swimming guy just mentioned above felt…
Two photographs after going ashore…
An elderly person doing morning exercises, technical difficulty rating 3.0, far higher than the Tai-chi exercises of old men and women in [China's] parks.
Accepting a holy water baptism…valiantly emerging from the water…[his] motions too fucking carefree…
Not enough money to buy [enough] firewood, those two feed will not be able to burn away, so it looks like they can only be discarded into the Ganges River…the people baptizing [in the Ganges], will they be so daring as to find a foot…?
Now let’s return to this post’s main topic…the rotting corpses in the Ganges River.
What are the dogs eating? Notice what is in the water on the left side of the image!
Swimming and bathing even with so many rotting corpses around.
There are a small number of middle-aged men and women squatting on the steps brushing their teeth, none of them using toothbrushes, half of them using their fingers, the other half using twigs, swallowing the water after brushing, and then cupping and drinking down a few more gulps, which happens to be in the opposite direction of people in other countries brushing their teeth and then spitting the water out.
Comments from Tianya:
白_马_非_马 (on Tianya) & 君子坦蛋蛋 (on LiuLiu):
I just want to say, there are a lot of places in China that are just the same. Don’t use the same air of superiority that Hong Kong and Taiwan people have when they look at mainlanders to look at India. I don’t like it.
英语绵绵 (on Tianya) & 七夜 (on LiuLiu):
All this is easy to fix, just use violence. China uses the hukou system to keep the poor population from settling in cities, and then uses chengguan to beat the rabble to death. The cities will then look very nice.
bjwh50: (responding to above comment)
Actually, this is exactly how America does it, using violence to beat the Indians [Native Americans] to death, pushing the Asian, African, and poor out into the country, running the poor white people into the surrounding outskirts of the cities. America’s police are even more terrible than China’s chengguan. If you’re within two meters of a police officer, you have to raise your hands, otherwise American police have the right to shoot you dead.
怎样走路 (on Tianya) & 绿毛怪 (on LiuLiu):
Taking a bath in this kind of river water…
And they say you will receive spiritual enlightenment…
Lou zhu might as well go try a septic tank, and see if you achieve even greater enlightenment, even greater consolation/comfort.
This kind of filthy country doesn’t think it is a shame but instead thinks it is glorious. Truly speechless.
That’s their place, they can do what they like, why discriminate?
How is India a democratic country? Would a democratic country divide society into four levels [castes]?
There’s truly something wrong with Indian people.
The Indians’ widespread use of cow dung, JY can say that this is their ancient wisdom, an understanding of eco-friendliness.
In the late 1970 when the West’s interest in China was kicking off, a French television channel did a show about China, and mentioned that the bicycle was the major mode of transport for two thirds of Beijingers. The host said these ancient people really understood how to live in harmony with nature, which is why they chose such a environmentally friendly way of getting around, and that it made them Europeans feel ashamed.
Wasn’t it said that they are thrown into the Ganges River after being cremated?
What do you do if you were swimming in the Ganges and accidentally ran into a corpse?
Kosuke Kindaichi said in a murder case, the hardest thing for a murderer to do is getting rid of the body.
Kosuke Kindaichi has obviously never been to India, because in India, getting rid of a body is too simple. Just buy some firewood and burn the body in broad daylight will do it. Murderers that are truly lazy murderers can just throw the corpse in a river and be done with it.
Comments from Mop:
When Indians themselves see how dirty India is, how bodies float in the river, they don’t feel bad about it???
Although different people have their own customs, after seeing the photos above, I feel that these things that Indian people do can’t be called customs. It is simply uncivilized, inhumane! I really think that have not evolved fully! Savages!
Although India is poor
The people have a lot of money
In this year’s list of richest people
There are a lot of Indians.
This civilisation is too distinctive.
I still think a sky burial would be easier to accept!~~~~~~~~~~~~~
These aren’t pictures of Afghanistan or Iraq, right? TV can trick people.
Hell on earth.
You’ve successfully made me nauseous, this post has completely changed how I look at India～～～
Comments from LiuLiu:
India is a democratic country with down to earth people.
The many dead animals above would have long ago been taken away by unscrupulous peddlers to be sold as food in China.
My God! Bodies can be seen so easily in the river! The Lou zhu was even able to take photos! It’s hard to imagine how calmly the Indians face death!
Bodies floating in Chinese rivers aren’t unheard of (drowning victims, people who have fallen in, those who kill themselves, can be found anywhere). In recent years, changes have been widespread and only after they have finished will this situation change.
As for going swimming amongst dead bodies, people from different perspectives have different thinking, just like how the Chinese can’t understand how the Africans eat mice, and the Africans can’t see how the Chinese eat frogs.
India is so dry, you really think people want to live like that?
[You don't think] they don’t want to live well? Don’t want to be like us and drink water from a faucet? To bathe in and drink clean water?
We can’t look at them in that way, they live like that because they have no other choice.
Less graphic images. chinaSMACK personals.